01/02/99 18:05:58
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Welcome to the Public chat
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Howdy Rydak
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : 'sup
Rydak [430] : Wait in limbo (as usual)
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : hi ryd
cantspell [5] : hello everybody!
Rydak [430] : Hi All
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Hi cantspell
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : hi can'tspell
MrPhillip [858] : Hi kantspel
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : This is a World Builder meeting -- feel free to sit
in
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : -but only speak in nodes! LOL
cantspell [5] : a meeting? nevermind-BYE!
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Greetintgs{
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : LOL
Rydak [430] : MrP, about those mysterious guitars...
MrPhillip [858] : yes, hahaha
Rydak [430] : I think that my son was goofing with Flux Studio whill I was away.
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh what's going on?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : guitars?
MrPhillip [858] : they are nice, I kept one.
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup! tell!
Rydak [430] : I build an anameter for the airport
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : wow!
MrPhillip [858] : in a vrml model he sent me there was a "suprise"
model embedded
Rydak [430] : It had um... a few extra components that I didn't know about
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : explain?
cucki [50] : HI
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : hi cucky -welcome to the vrml-meeting
MrPhillip [858] : there were two acoustic guitar modeles embedded in the weather
vane Rydak sent me.
Rydak [430] : My son likes to play with Flux Studio and I think he inserted a few extra
guitars into my weather instruments
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Hi cucki , shejk, Jim_Bish -- this is a World
Builder meeting, fee eree to sit in
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : -with sounds?
MrPhillip [858] : It is hard to explain unless you were the guy that found them.
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yeaa
Rydak [430] : (or wearing the egg on my face)
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : -what's about a link list of our work?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Ok, why don't we get the meeting going
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Good topic to start with HC
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup -let's start
MrPhillip [858] : called to order
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : ;))
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Ok -- the link list
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : is on it's way
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : who wanna make it?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Officially it's going to be called the 'Suburbs'
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : ah ;))
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Well I guess SFX
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : is working on the HTML
Rydak [430] : It this like a web ring?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : (hope not)
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Actually it's going to be a new section of CoCi
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : for the Builders to build in
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : with more stylistic freedom
Rydak [430] : Ah
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : (don't like that 'rings'.. -U don't know what
Ur get -before U click on it..)
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Agree
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : The format will probably be a
MrPhillip [858] : Pascal says mid-january?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : text link list menu
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Yessir MrP
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh k
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : That way all the worlds you build that don't
necessarily fit the CoCi Science Fiction theme
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : will have an official home
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : sounds good -we can access ur world inside
coci then?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Yes
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : The factory opening problem will be solved
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : wonderful ;)=)))))
MrPhillip [858] : yippiee
Rydak [430] : The list of house owners is limited to guild members?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : (by the way -good mister vader included it on
the blaxxun-list ;)) )
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : About time :)
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I saw that HC
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : House owners?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : list?
Rydak [430] : In the Suburbs...
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Oh -- right -- being dense
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : The way it will work is:
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup everybody can add worlds in the 'suborbs'
-could U explain the concept a bit more?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : worlds will be submitted for aproval
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : to the World Builder's
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Guild and the Architect
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Then uploaded
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : if accepted
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I personally think that requiring
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : wow -so we can view the all nice worlds
first! ;))
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : people who submit to be
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : World Builders is a good idea
MrPhillip [858] : I agree on guild approval 1st.
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : I like to view new worlds ;))
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : It makes sense to me too. Of course there will be
some sort of official CoCi approval too -- probablky Pascal
Rydak [430] : I don't think guild membership should be a requirement (unless you
want 5000 one-shot members)
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : hmm....
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : but I think the judgment in this group is good
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Hmm -- does bear some thought Rydak
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup -I think that too...
MrPhillip [858] : I agree Rydak, Guild approval, not necessairly membership
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : think everybody in guild knows what good
world are ;))
Rydak [430] : Also, if we need to review massive numbers of worlds, there needs to
be a limiting factor
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I don't think it will be a massive number
[Deputy Library] Vader [1021] : vrml's complexity will limit that :-)
Rydak [430] : Perhaps payment in CoCi money so we don't get 15 updates from the
same user
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : at most maybe 5-10 a weej
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : week
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup -good idea ryd!
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I don't follow....submissions get paid
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : should cost 100 at the second world
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : on acceptance?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Ahhh
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : judging fee
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : not the first one maybe?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Good idea
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : or.. naww.. -we have lot's of money.. -so why
not spending a bit ;))
MrPhillip [858] : a fee or a toll, mainly a filter. I think VRML itself will be
the filter
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup -but a fee is a good idea too
Rydak [430] : A judging fee, yes. To limit abuse of the system and our time (there
are 35K members out there)
[World Builder] Vader [1021] : well, I would rather pay money for worlds
[World Builder] Vader [1021] : there are not may good ones out there
MrPhillip [858] : OK then the Guild will judge worlds for a fee then.
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I guess I would
Rydak [430] : I seem building worlds for clients as a new 'job'.
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : ask for a judging fee to view the world
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh there a 35k dead bodies! LOL
[World Builder] Vader [1021] : btw, I just figured out how to make ppl members of
the guild, mrp is now officially a worldbuilder
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : then
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Maybe payment to the builder if accepted
MrPhillip [858] : Wow, thanks, that was my next topic. I will table it then.
Rydak [430] : [hands MrP a cigar]
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Vader -- could you hit Rydak too?
[World Builder] Vader [1021] : you have to restart you browser though
[World Builder] Vader [1021] : ok, I will
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : WOW vader -welcome mrP !!!
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : THANK YOU
MrPhillip [858] : [passes cigar back]
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : OK -- whew -- that took a while
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : LOL *lights the cigar or mrP * ;))
Rydak [430] : How about this economic model...
Rydak [430] : It takes a fee to submit a custom world to the Suburbs...
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup
Rydak [430] : The 'owner' than can put their design on the market if theywant
others to use it (for a fee)
[World Builder] Vader [1021] : rydak also is a world builder now, anybody else?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : That should cover it Vader
Rydak [430] : Merci
[World Builder] Vader [1021] : ok, I will leave now, have fun and bye
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : See you V -- thanks again
MrPhillip [858] : thanks
Rydak [430] : Thanks for the bull's eye.
01/02/99 18:28:40
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01/02/99 18:28:54
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Welcome to the Public chat
Rydak [430] : Since the 'burbs will be allowed to go beyond the SciFi theme...
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : re-hi
Rydak [430] : Will there be naighborhoods?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh U poor builder! -U will be a target 4
the ppl now! LOL
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : It could work -- but I don't know how it will fit
in the Database structure
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Speech MrP
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yeaa -show Ur title!
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : thank you, thank you very much
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Heh
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yeaaa!!!
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : ryd U too?
Rydak [430] : Speech?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : umm... -not now?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : You didn't reload yet Rydak
Rydak [430] : Reloading always seems like a perious business BRB
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : OK
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : hit refresh
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Is that an animation or are you flying MrP?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : those are gestures
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Cool
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh good one mrP!
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I have 8
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : How is the airport coming
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : ?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : you can ride the plane if you use viewpoints
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I saw that
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : wow -how U make a 'disagree'-looping?!? LOL
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I did more work on the airport. I added rydaks
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Do it to me
MrPhillip says hello there hermetic_cab
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : Tada!
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Heh
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : LOL -is ther space left mrP,clean?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : still space in the plane?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I'm out -- your turn HC
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I added rydalks racing pylons and wind sock
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : -make some looplings mrP!
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : OK -- lets shelve the
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : [takes a bow]
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I am having problems with the
"ground" however
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : suburbs topic for a minute
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Chears Rydak
Black-Eagle mag euch
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh -all pilots have that !
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Yeah Rydak -- hip hip!
Black-Eagle begruesst euch
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k.. yup -let's work!
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : hurroray
Black-Eagle [50] : hello all
Black-Eagle [50] : 1
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Hello Black-Eagle this is a World Builders meeting
Black-Eagle [50] : /1
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : hi blackE
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : feel free to sit in and listen
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k.. topic?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : So the airport is not finished yet. I will
work some more.
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : OK -- next topic, because it will affect most of
what we are disscusing
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : Projects for 1999
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Well -- one announcement before that
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I'm working officially for Blaxxun now.
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Actual employee
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : arrggg!!!
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : LOL
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : Congrats
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Great. Congrats
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Thanks -- but it raises a lot of issues
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : and it's why I've been so busy/absent lately
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : First issue is this
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I'm going to stay Architect, but I don't think I
should necessarily be heading up the Guild
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Nothing official has been decided
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup -agree!
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : But I think you all should start thinking about
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : you will have to be involved however
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : who should be the next Guild leader
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : but guess we won't get easy another
architect..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I'll stay involved for certain
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : in fact I should have more time now
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : sinc eit's my job
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : hehehe
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I think that the Guild members should elect a new
Architect -- but I still have to get
Black-Eagle [50] : i'm new here, but is very cool
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : this plan through channels to make it official
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : so who want's to be next architect?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I would nominate MrP or HC
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : I would nominate mrP!
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : hermetic is only a helper ;))
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : MrP?
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : Can there be two architects?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : LOL ryd
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Well, maybe
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : that's my next point
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : MrP?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : two highlanders?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : would you want the job?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : mrP?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : LOL -he lost speech!
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I guess so
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : It's a hefty call...
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Well while MrP is afk
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : OK. sorry, my wife got me
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : the other option is to form an Architectuire board
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Sure I'll take the job.
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Heh -- ok
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I can't make it official
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : WOWOW!!!!
[World Builder] Rydak [430] whispers : Nice barrel roll
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup -good idea too bureo!
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I have to check with other people
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : OK
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : SFX,Hawk, and the folks at Blaxxun
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : -I had some ppl told me ideas to build in
coci..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : We should also include GORTz in this
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : he's helped an awful lot
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup!
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : yup
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : but gortz has his title -right?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : But I'll be asking then that MrP take over as head
of the Guild
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : GORTz has Cief of Fun title
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : LOL
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k..
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I think he is prud of that one.
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : Perhaps an offical ballot/debate next week?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : He is
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup -and ppl don't bother him! LOL
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : That would probably be a good idea -- though I
think that all the key
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : World Builders are here -- except GORTz
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : so how much wb's we have now?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I think GORTz would support MrP too
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : all are here now?
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : (Thinking back to the web page) I thought the list
was larger
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : There are about 21
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : but only about 6 active
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : :)
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : arrgg -isn't that too much?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Not really
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : but it could be carved down
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I actually tried to
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : hmm yup
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k.. more topics..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : but nobody at blaxxun entered it into the dB
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : :)
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : when we can build our own we will probably see
ragtimer again
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Treu MrP
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Hope so
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : would like to have rag here ahain..
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : 'again'..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : OK new topics
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Suburbs -- finnish topic
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : naww -!
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Suburbs will be domain under guidance of Architect
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : how things will be displayed..
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : ..any details?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : To start
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : ..all likns will be on a html -list ?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : worlds will be displayed as a link list
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Right HC
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k..
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : like in places right?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : if ppl go inside -they will appear in
coci-list?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : In future maybe seamless world
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : HTML list will be accessesed as a pop-up in the
right hand HTML pane
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : (LOL sorry 4 my bad english.. -so I better
ask twice ;)) )
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : then if people in Suburb world
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : world will show up in places
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : So, these new worlds will be on a different server?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Same server
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : The CoCi server has planty of room/bandwidth
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k.. -now I understood ;))
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I understand
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : OK
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh -U bad english too mrP? LOL
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Now as far as the economic model goes
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I think that charging a fee
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : good
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : maybe paying people for the worlds from CoCi stash
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : hmm is there planned that coci cost money to
access sometime? (hope not!)
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : best would be that
elke [290] : Hi alls
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : someone draw up a proposal for how the fee's and
judging would be organized by the Guild
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : Some folks will want exclusive worlds, and others
will want to share their designs.
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : (CoCi stays fre for long time...)
elke [290] : why do you think CoCi should cost something?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I like what Rydak said earlier about you pay a
fee to put a world out and you get rent if folks use it.
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Hi elke -- this is a World Builders meeting-- feel
free to sit in and listen
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : Real world money, I hope not. Virtual services in
virtual money.
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : no me don't think that elke
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : That will make competition to be compelling
elke [290] : oh sorry!
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Could work -- would need to be a new Database
function
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : no sweat elke :)
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I think it could be an option
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Mrp -- but free worlds should exist too
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Would Citizens foot the 'rent' bill?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : if we are talking about coci credits what is
the diff?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : or the City?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : True....
elke [290] : So bye, have a good working session....
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Bye Elke
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k bye elke
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : it would ab another "reason" to have
"money" here
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : I'm still in support of advertising as a real world
financier and leave the gates of CoCi open to every one. Using CoCi credits for fees and
such is just a limiting factor for the work load.
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : so.. what's the line?
Pexxie [5] : Hi,just go on,i'm only listening!!
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k thanx pexxie
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup -but do U don_#t want any fees'?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : (virtual of course)
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : .. I think it's a good idea.. -so ppl wont
submit every box'-world-shit..
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I agree.
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : Since everyone already pays a virtual fee for a 3D
house, the precedent has already been set.
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : correct again Rydak.
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k..
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : so next?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I don't quite follow Rydak -- you want to charge a
cash (real) fee for submissions?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : we have an economic model in place, lets use
it
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : (this virtual/real stuff gets confusing)
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : LOL yup
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : ryd?
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : We need a workable mechanic for submission of new
worlds (unless we want to be bombarded with e-mail.) A queue of some kind...
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Tha can be done
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I am taking about coci credits (not real)
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : ok
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : [all fees are virtual unless the words 'real world'
prefix it.]
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup.. and a form that we can add it on the
list..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : ok
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : OK so rydak you mean virtual fees right?
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : [searchs for the laser beam attachment ]
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : so let's try this all builders here agree
that subissions cost (virtual) coci -money -right?
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : Yes.
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Good idea Rydakk -- real world prefix
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Yes
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : LOL
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : yes
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : whew
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k.. next topic?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : whew too
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : OK who wants to draw up a proposal for me to submit
to the Founders?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Passes overwhelmingly
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : or should we say how much?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : What does a house cost today?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : same amount
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : mrP's first work?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : Equal to...
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Could be -- or he could delegate it
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Checking prices...
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Uh, a proposal fro econ model....hmm ok
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k.. so next? -we meet now an hour.. -not that
I don't have much time 4 this.. but guess we should not meet 4 tree hours.. ;))
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Ok -- next topic? I'm out of them
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I agree Hermetic. My son has a science report
I need to work on.
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I could talk a little about CoCi structure and new
browser functions in the works
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : Suburbs, grand opening: Are we going to coordinate
and have a bunch of new design at one time?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : one ppl asked me to make a millitary-part
here in coci..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Or we could end the meeting
[Block Deputy] Wozzo [190] : hello
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : afk
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : OK, new functions...when voice? when shared?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Hi Wozzo
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : ..he sayd there is much mil-folks.. -feeling
at home here too ;))
coolchris [115] : hi
coolchris [115] : hi Clean
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Military -- in the works -- hush hush stuff
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Voice I don't know
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : Military themed neighborhoods?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I don't know why it isn't up yet either
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I know the new server build is tested
SpaceMaterial waves hello to everyone
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : But soon
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup he asked bout that..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Check out virtual raleigh for a demo
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : what's that?
SpaceMaterial waves hello to Rydak
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : It's an IBM world built to run in
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Blaxxun CCPro
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I think Lunatic did it
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Neat stuff - I'll find the URL and mail it out
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : is that military scene?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k thanx ;))
SpaceMaterial waves hello to hermetic_cab
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Military will be coming -- but it's not a high
priority
SpaceMaterial waves good-bye to hermetic_cab
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Plan is to make it VERY interactive though
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : so -are there any plans to make blocks in
3-d? (I still have not finished factories -but that was my idea with it..)
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : A military without battles is no fun (maybe it is
fun without)
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : [note to self: work on tanks and army men.]
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Heh
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Block wiull be 3D
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : but again lower priority
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Priorities decided by Blaxxun:
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Clubs
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh mrP our cold warrior? LOL
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Stadium
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : New colonies with 3D entry worlds
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k ;))
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Some Games
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : great
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Integration of 30,00 Cybertown members in to CoCi
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : 30,000 that is
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : hehehe
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : sounds good
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : So to start heading twords 3D blocks, the new
colonies will be 3D
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : -how long U think it will all need?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : then we work down the ladder
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : is that like the 35,000 dead bodies here?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : WOW!
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : LOL mrP!
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Plan is to have the list I gave done by July or so
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : wow -guess that will not be enough time ;))
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : LOL -- MrP I think the Cybertown population is more
activwe
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k.. -last our web-page!
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Well -- we have a lot of full time people now --
like me
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : SFX and Hawk are full time too
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k..
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : How much of that is external development and how much
can we contribute to it?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : The builders will have
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : pretty free reign in the suburbs
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : and are welcome to contributr
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : to the 'City Proper'
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : but the style and content guidelines for the City
are
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : quite stringent
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : let's keep ways short at all..
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : They need to be
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Exactly
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : agreed
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Blaxxun has really decided to use CoCi as a
showcase -- more than before even
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : so quality is important-- to show off the tech
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : NOw that they won awards
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Yup :)
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : Another good reason for them to get the Suburbs
on-line
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Definately
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : understood. We will try to keep the quality
up.
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Have you all checked out Virtual Paris
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : ?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I keep meaning to, but havew not sadly
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Hmmm -- we should make it a point to start setting
aside some time to really adress design quality/issues
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : Field trip! :-)
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Yes! Field Trip
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I think we could all benifit from som 'critique'
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : OK that is your assignment ...to visti Virtual
Paris
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Mr P speaks!
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : crashed again..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Make it so....
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : T-world is great too. VRML with out walls.
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : where's the line?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : What line HC?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Tworld?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : what's up now?
[World Builder] Rydak [430] : [The wife says I need to go shopping. Please forward
any directions to T-world and Virtual Paris.]
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : what U talking..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : OK -- will do
Rydak waves good-bye to everyone
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Bye Rydak
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k CU ryd?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : so was was the last bout?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : what' was..
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : OK, we (I) will send out a list of virtual
places that we should check out
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : We were talking about Virtual Paris
JennyNoetges [0] : help me!!!
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k..
JennyNoetges [0] : what tzo do here??
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : hehe -I was in sony world.. -funny!
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : brb
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : -but only japanese ;))
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Well, do we have any more business?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : jenny -read the FAQ on plaza..
JennyNoetges [0] : thnx
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup our web-page!
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : we wait till clean back?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Ok -- back
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Sorry -- had to help wife :)
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : so our guild-HP..
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I got ame deal here
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : The page -- what about
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : we need somethink to have our links at..
-though Ur idea of bureo was good..
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : ..so ppl can C our guild and know what we are
doing..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : We need a link page...right?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : OK -- I guess this is a topic
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Since I'm working for Blaxxun -- Spyglass is
closing it's doors
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : (4 example if ppl read the title
'wrl-builder' -they think I'm resondsible 4 all here...-I have build this all..)
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : But I've paid for the server space for quite a
while'
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I was thinking of letting some of the core WB's
(you) use it
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : ..so need something on the places list -where
ppl can leave their ideas.. and inform bout us..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : for the world Builder site
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : That woukld be great. It would end my
"comerrcial" popup problems
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Ahh -- a guild hall
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k.. goodf idea..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Right MrP 25 M of high quality server space
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : That way all can help with page
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : and not wait for me :)
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup -that advertising of geocites is awfull!
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I'll write up some rules -- but I figure you will
all be responsible
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup good idea.. -we need that..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : OK -- my gift to all the builders for all the help
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : ..and guess it's ok to have it's on a bxxie
server..
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : hipp hip hurroray
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Own bxx server? not at spyglass.....just rent
spyglass space on a friend's server
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : give some accounts to some guild
-web-page-guys..
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : yah, that is a good idea.
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : hmm.. -not importent where it is.. -but we
need advertising-free-webspace 4 guild.
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Basically I plan that HC,GORTz,MrP,Rydak, and I
will have access
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : ..and accounts 4 some guild guys to update..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : each has own folder
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k.. agree ;))
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : and one folder for Guild that all access
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : root access to the domain remains mine
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : -but what I was talking bout is the guild
web-page..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : since I pay the bill :)
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : wonderful
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k.. ;))
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Accounts at the guild webpage?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : -4 updating..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I' confused (as usual)
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : LOL
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Heh -- I'll send an e-mail HC -- all will be clear
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I think i have your wishes covered
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : ..guess U won't be mailed every time we want
to update the guild page.. -so it sould be more than U have access to upload pages there..
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Right -- you will be able to update when you want
HC
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : ..LOL
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : hahah ! k..
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Great, I understand.
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I made a new "vrml tutorial links"
page yesterday
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I think you understood right away MrP-- just me and
HC getting it straight :)
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : -second -we need something inside coci -that
points on our guild page.. -so could need (3-D) bureo..
Pro-Gress [105] : greetings advanced beings
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : That's a good idea HC
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I'll definately pursue it
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : What's the URL MrP?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Hi ProGress
Pro-Gress [105] : hello
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : hey pro
Pro-Gress [105] : yes sir
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I need to publish it, it will be onmy other
coci index pages
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Cool
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : (pro asked to come into vrml-guild..)
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Maybe wait to publish it on the new server?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Well to join the guild
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Whatever, I tested most of the links last
night.
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : You need to submit an application and portfoliio
Pro-Gress [105] : oh i see
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Or you can apprentice toa World Builder who is then
responsible for you ....
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : send it all to 'architect"at"colonycity.com
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : like HC for instance :)
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Clean: I would like to turn that application
into an interactive form.
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Check out http://www.spyglassvr.com/ccwb for more
info
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k...
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Does spyglass support "frontpage
extersions"?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Yes -- but I don't use them
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : arrgg!
Pro-Gress [105] : hermetic cab this musicman av, when i klik on it it causes me an
error in exploer and i have to shut down, why?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : you'll have to show me how
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : LOL
[Block Leader] DMX1 [585] : sup?
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : umm.. -sorry to hear that..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I would use PERL to make the form
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : -I don't uses IE..
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : It works for me with forms and stuff (no cgi)
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : thanx 4 the info pro!
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Cool - I know that I have frontpage extension
access
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I'll set you up right after the meeting
J9000 [65] : hello
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : -by the way -I updated the av-section on my
server -have a gesture-av-tutorial on cyworx.com now..
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : so the form results will be distributed by
email
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Is frontpage extensions anything like ASP?
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : (I use a fair amount of ASP)
Pro-Gress [105] : cool
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I was there yseterday Hermetic.
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup PERL better than miroshit-stuff..
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : agree HC
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : NT crashes too much
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : agreeed (sheesh)
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : eheh
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : ;)))
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : *hermetic is happy that all agreed* ;))
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : but, when in Rome do as the Romans do.
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : That too
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : MS is everywhere
Pro-Gress [105] : see you advanced beings later bye
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : yup.. -think if there is no other way
miroshit is ok too ;))
[City Architect] Clean [1358] :
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : It is good to know microsofts side of the
story
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : CU pro ;))
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Bye Pro
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : agree
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k.. so was all?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Well. we all agree. want to end on that high
note???
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : ASP is easy to implement -- that's what MS does
well
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Sure ! Meeting adjuorned
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Thanks for coming all. Happy new year
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : Yessir -- Happy New Year!
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : hehe yup with U happy new y too ;))
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : wish I ment ;))
[City Architect] Clean [1358] : I get back to work......
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I will try to capture the log of this meeting
again. for the others
[City Architect] Clean [1358] :
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : poof
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k..
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : oops is there a meeting here?
[Deputy Library] Vader [1021] : ris wait
[Deputy Library] Vader [1021] : chris wait
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : -I will try to work again on the guild-site
this month..
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : missed him by that much
[Deputy Library] Vader [1021] : I see
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k.. byea?
[Deputy Library] Vader [1021] : I was reading the logs, but hat to reboot before I
got in, damn
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : k any importent left?
[Deputy Library] Vader [1021] : sth in here is making my machine freak
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : hmm...
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I am exhausted
[Deputy Library] Vader [1021] : even in wireframe mode I am down to 3 fps
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : Phil you got a new job........congrats
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : thanks
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : shakes mrP's hand..byea ;))
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : whats Coming on April 10th?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : returns handshake
[World Builder] hermetic_cab [2138] : ;))
[Deputy Library] Vader [1021] : seems to be TheManX's avatar
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : It is probably too large
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : polygon wize
[Deputy Library] Vader [1021] : TheManX, are you there?
[Deputy Library] Vader [1021] : seems to be
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : hello? What is coming on April 10th
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : ??
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I give up 008, what?
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : there is a sign that says Coming Soon Sunday 7 PM 10
April
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : I dont know I wanted to know
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Is the suspense just killing you?
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : kinda
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : we have a flare for the dramitic here
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : maybe I should forget about it before it does
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : so when did u become a World Builder Phil?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : about 30 minutes ago.
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : kewl
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : whoa kewl engine noise and flip
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : vrooom
[Block Deputy] XxAnD1DaWg007xX [115] : hey 008
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : It starts every time
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : hiya Dawg
[Block Deputy] XxAnD1DaWg007xX [115] : hey mr. p
[Block Deputy] XxAnD1DaWg007xX [115] : what is every1 doing here?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Hey dog
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : I don't know
[Block Deputy] XxAnD1DaWg007xX [115] : congrats mr. p
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : We just finished a world builders guild
meeting
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : oh ok
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : and are now loitering
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : wasn't very many World Builder's here though
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : or was there more earliar?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : 4-6 of the active ones.
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : theres only 6?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : there are about 21, some more active than
others
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : oh ok
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I expect to see more interest soon, when thay
can publish their work
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : yeah probably
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : Why don't they get rid of some of the mif they dont
come?
[Block Deputy] XxAnD1DaWg007xX [115] : lata
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : see ya Dawg
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : why insult them
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : I guess
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : in the beginning anyone could join as we were
just forming
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : They must have talent if they got the job
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : really
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : even me?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Well, they were mostly known names in the vrml
world
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : oh ok
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : hiya Adboy
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : but how do they know that they're not coming back?
[Block Leader] ADBOY [1258] : hey 008
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : now if you have a portfolio and fill out a
form we will evaluate your work and vote on it
[Block Leader] ADBOY [1258] : hey Mrphillip
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : well, I gotta go.
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : I'm not very good....I don't think I could in
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Hey adboy
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : cya Phil
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : sorry I just missed you
[Block Leader] ADBOY [1258] : phill
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : poof
[Block Leader] ADBOY [1258] : hold on
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : ok, I am holding
[Block Leader] ADBOY [1258] : lol, where do u find out the lastest news on vrml?
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : why is Clean's av still here if he left?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : www.vrml.org
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : there is a vrml mailing list you can join
[Block Leader] ADBOY [1258] : i'm on cc's already
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : well congrats Phil see you around.......
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : thanks 008
[Block Leader] ADBOY [1258] : thanks phill
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : I made a page that I will soon publish about
vrml tutorial links
[Block Leader] ADBOY [1258] : r there any big corp's using vrml?
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : ok tell me the URl whe ndone
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : http://members.tripod.com/~mr_phillip/index_coci.htm
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : oh its donhe now?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : It will be under that page
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : ok
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : the navy?
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : IBM?
[Block Leader] ADBOY [1258] : i know the marketing manger for IBM and he's
intereseted in seeing some
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : IBM is a consortium sponsor I think
[Block Leader] ADBOY [1258] : i c
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : go to www.vrml.org you will see the sponsors.
Like Oracle
[Block Leader] ADBOY [1258] : he's said the company VIRTUALITY went bust owing him
money
[Block Leader] ADBOY [1258] : so they've gone off it
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : whoa
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : gee not a good start
[Block Leader] ADBOY [1258] : i'm trying to get him interested agian
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : might be tough after what happened
[Block Leader] ADBOY [1258] : he's pretty resonable
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : well that website is the top of the vrml food
chain
[Block Leader] ADBOY [1258] : i'll tell him thanks phill
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : Alright. I gotta go.
[Block Leader] ADBOY [1258] : cya
[Block Leader] 008 [780] : see ya Phil
[World Builder] MrPhillip [858] : poof